So recently I adopted a 9 week old Rottweiler/Jack Russel Terrier. His name is Wiley and is a ton of fun. However, occasionally he gets really riled up and
runs around the house doing laps and will occasionally stop to growl or bark, and will also sometimes jump and nip at you. He doesnt ever bite down but does
enjoy gnawing on peoples hands. Any ideas on how to stop this? or should I not be worrying at this stage? THANKS! Jake
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cdturner |
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Posts: 8309 10/28/09 4:41 PM Moderator/Rescue |
Your puppy is FRAPPING.
FRAPPING Welcome!!! Please post pictures of your puppy. I'm sure he's adorable, but I'm having a real problem visualizing that combination.     
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Posts: 3007 10/28/09 5:04 PM Moderator/Pet Sitter |
Congrats on the new pup! Got any pix? We'd love seeing them...
As for mouthing and jumping, very normal behavior but may as well start now to keep it at a minimum. At his age, he needs a LOT of sleep...and an overtired/overstimulated puppy can get mouthy. Think cranky toddler... Are you crate training? If your pup is jumping and mouthing, one way to deal with it is to calmly pop him into his crate for a "time out". That will teach him that playtime ends when puppy teeth hit human skin. Do you have the book My Smart Puppy? It has lots of info on these and other puppy behaviors and how to effectively deal with them. |
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Posts: 15 10/28/09 5:31 PM |
I definitely need to pick up the book. Thank you for the suggestions. I am currently crate training him. Right now the crate is in my room because I do most of
my work in my room and I would rather have him have the company. Recently when Wiley gets "wild" lol, I put him in the crate and he calms down
usually immediately. Sometimes he will try to scratch through his pillow, but once he finds a rawhide he is usually occupied. And CDTURNER, he looks pretty
much exactly like a Rott, just miniature. All the same coloring. And the FRAPPING website was a HUGE help and reassuring. My older dog, who is a Black
Lab/German Shepherd was the easiest to train so Im still learning and I appreciate all the tips.
THANKS! I will post pictures ASAP! |
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Posts: 15 10/28/09 5:32 PM |
Sorry, but forgot to ask, I have asked all my family members who have had multiple dogs and read a few journals, but what do you think is the correct length to
leave him in the crate?
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Posts: 4814 10/28/09 5:36 PM Senior Member
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What a cool mix of breeds!
The general rule of thumb for length of time in crate is age in months + 1, so an 8 week old puppy should be left 3 hours max without an outing. That's what we did/are doing with my pup, and he seems to handle it just fine. We're starting to extend to more like 4ish-5 hours in crate at a time just now.  ~Big feet fill big shoes.
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Posts: 382 10/29/09 2:42 PM |
Rottie/ Jack Russell? Really?
 What a cutie!
The mouthiness is pretty typical at that age. Some experts will tell you to yelp like you're in pain, then turn your back on him, since that's what his littermates would do when he got to playing too rough. I have found, however, that that will only egg certain puppies on (it did for my crazy puppy!) Best bet is to crate him when he gets too FRAP-py. |
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Posts: 56 11/01/09 1:11 AM Member |
It it's just a FRAP, getback and let him get the beans. Keep a drag lead on him when he is loose and if he nips at you or any person, time out to some
generic boring place, closed door on lead and walf off. I agree, a "YELP" often incites more play and often does not work. Turning your back would be
giving him space rather you should be taking some space from him on occassion. That's better leadership.
Get the book, you'll love it! |
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Posts: 5194 11/01/09 7:51 AM Professional Trainer/Moderator |
Rott/JRT cross sounds fun... but likely will also be a handful. You'll be getting some Rottie characteristics + persistence + scrappiness = who knows what,
so educate him and everyone in your family.
I'd be working on space games in MSP now, and daily  Group class would be immensely useful as well, ongoing.
Set the boundaries and rules now for all, and try your hardest to get consistent compliance from family members. Most of all, have fun, be persistent, insistent, pleasant, and handle him a ton. The book will give you great tools and instruction on what to do, how to do it and why, but hands-on training from a good trainer and group class will be invaluable as well. |
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Posts: 15 11/02/09 7:29 PM |
I definitely need to pick up the book. So far he has been learning from timeouts in his crate. However, he has a knack for getting riled up and growling and
barking at me which worries me. He gets so wound up that he doesnt realize what hes doing until he knows hes in trouble. The growling is what worries me. I try
to praise him as much as possible when he is friendly and does his business outside, but i cant break the bark. Any ideas?
THANKS!!!!! P.S Would you suggest group classes or one on one work? |
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Posts: 2107 11/03/09 6:56 AM |
What is your pup's daily schedule like? When does he sleep (and where) and when is he eating? How long are play sessions? Have you started any training?
Puppies are like many young children -- over-tired = extremely hyper.
Check out TKW's response for some good ideas about getting started with training to help him learn rules and boundaries. For now, I would be stopping play as soon as he amps up and not giving him any opportunity to get super wound up. It is an important skill for a dog to learn both how to calm themselves and to be okay doing a nice, calm activity (like chewing a bone or even sleeping) alone. As far as classes go, if you tell us where you are located, we may be able to recommend a good trainer.
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Posts: 15 11/03/09 2:54 PM |
I am located in Buffalo, NY. He usually wakes up between 9 and 10 AM, I then walk him, play with him for a little while outside, then i bring him in for
breakfast around the same time...I usually have class work to do so I will work in my living room while he plays in the kitchen. He then is in the crate from
around 11 to 2 or 3. Then i walk him again and play till about 4. He then goes back in his crate till dinner around 5:30 to 6:30. He eats, I walk him and he
plays for awhile till about 8. He then goes back in the crate till about 10, then i walk him again, let him hang out in the kitchen till about 11 or 12, then
he passes out for the night. The crate currently is in my bedroom. Any suggestions if I am doing something wrong?
Thanks Jake P.S i usually give him a treat after he is walked and he does his business outside unless he is about to be fed a meal. |
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Posts: 15 11/03/09 2:55 PM |
Also, how should i handle him when he is wild? I do not know whether to give him a tap on the nose, which usually makes him more wild, ignore him or sometimes
i will pick him up and put him in his crate
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Jross3 |
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Posts: 15 11/03/09 4:29 PM |
Just ordered the book!!! Hope it will help!
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Posts: 3007 11/03/09 7:21 PM Moderator/Pet Sitter |
When he gets "wild", just calmly pop him into his crate with a chew toy. No need to tap his nose (it doesn't work anyway, as you've seen).
Check out the "Puppy biting...Ouch" thread in this forum...similar issues going on and suggestions made there that should help. |
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Posts: 362 11/07/09 10:43 AM |
Known in our household as "going crackerdog". With a nod towards James Herriot.
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Posts: 4814 11/07/09 11:42 AM Senior Member
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Woost--lol! Zibi doesn't look very Tricki-Woo ish, but I'll buy it.
~Big feet fill big shoes.
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Jross3 |
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Posts: 15 11/09/09 3:05 PM |
Hes slowly starting to learn. He knows sit and has finally learned that when he gets a treat he has to nicely take it out of my hand. Im still having a real
hard time breaking his gnawing and nipping habits. I am trying my best not to say NO to him when he is bad and i use his crate all the time. He still loves to
go at my hand when i put on his leash. When hes calm, hes so loving, how can i keep him calm and loving?!?!?!?!?! lol
His crazy tactics at time have earned him the nickname of Wild (real name Wiley) |
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Posts: 7863 11/09/09 3:30 PM Trainer/Senior Member |
Have you found a puppy class yet? Some hands on help would be really great.
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Jross3 |
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Posts: 15 11/10/09 2:53 PM |
Not yet, I just started looking. The problem is that I go to school 6 hours from home, so I am not sure whether to start classes at school, or wait till my
winter break. Do you suggest one on one training, or a class?
So far the book has been a HUGE help. |
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