Proposal for pros

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feeds@yuku.com (beckybishop) — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:07:21 GMT

Tell her to get My Smart Puppy and go to lunch. ; )

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feeds@yuku.com (TKW) — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:20:53 GMT

Sounds like a good plan, Mails.

Let us know how it goes~

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feeds@yuku.com (PoochProfessor) — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:09:40 GMT

Thanks for the discussion. I posted this same question in a couple of places, and the responses, and how they different by organization/group, were interesting.

It's semi-hypothetical, because i cannot divine the future, and therefore cannot know that she'll never train with me or someone else again. But based on what I know, she will most likely not. I at least need to be prepared for that...

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feeds@yuku.com (tonypup) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:26:36 GMT

Teach her to hand feed. (this will stop the mouthing, give her time to work on; watch me,sit,down,stand)
Prong for pulling, I would have a hard time putting on a HH, not enough imfo on her.
left circles and 90 and 180 turn aways.
space games
and finding it a job depending on natural attributes

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feeds@yuku.com (TKW) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:45:56 GMT

Also get to work on head turn if possible.... which is for me, foundation for soooo many other things.

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feeds@yuku.com (SW845) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:16:02 GMT

Great discussion...

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feeds@yuku.com (TKW) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:48:16 GMT

Yes, true true true re HH not for all dogs.

Nothing is one size fits all, as we know.

I mentioned the HH because I'd hate to leave her without teaching the dog what the pressure of the collar means (release to pressure games) and have her correcting the dog all the time.

I think Mailey will know whether or not the HH will be a go or if she needs to change equipment.

Was going to mention asking if she'd be willing to do an hour and a half for...

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feeds@yuku.com (packopeebs) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:59:36 GMT

The only thing I worry about with a prong is that the dog is an 8 month old pushy adolescent that won't be seen again - the HH allows for the turn away from another dog if there are issues. Totally get that some dogs just don't adapt well to them though, so I would play it by ear, but would work hard to get the head halter accepted.

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feeds@yuku.com (Trievr) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:52:18 GMT

I agree with UD on the collar thing. I would prefer a HH for this type of dog, but alas some dogs and folks just can't get it in an hour and if no follow up lesson..might go the prong route(most labs and pits I have dealt with have to transition to a GD from a prong, but without seeing this dog don't know)

I concur on the space games.

Also, a good sit...tethered and approach type thing so that dog is plunking his arse to the ground every time you turn...

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feeds@yuku.com (Underdog) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:37:36 GMT

Well I would probably look at either a HH or a good dog collar. I would try to determine which would be best suited for the dog and owner (I know just an hour), The thing is I've seen dogs fight Haltis for their entire lives and I'd hate to send her off with a device the dog hated. That could be a detriment to the whole process.

I agree with all the exercises, although I might work on a guided down as well. I'd do the approach and retreat method of getting the dog to sit...

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feeds@yuku.com (packopeebs) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:36:18 GMT

Definitely a head halter instead of a pinch, maybe one meal a day as treats to work for throughout the day, boundary setting and space games.

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feeds@yuku.com (Begaul) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:21:16 GMT

I'm with TKW...space games, absolutely. A HH too...

And a tactfully delivered (or not) message concerning unrealistic expectations, perhaps...

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feeds@yuku.com (TKW) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:55:37 GMT

I would incorporate a HH with walking, sits and downs, waits and left circles.

In order, after intro to HH: Left Circles
Wait
Sit
Down
So you get to work on space with the left circles, walking, the dog stops practicing pulling.
Wait will help with door stuff and relationship (as a space game)
Sit will help with preventing jumping, and gives her something to tell the dog to do that is easy and most people do a million times a day.
Down, if you can...

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feeds@yuku.com (Margaret Mae) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:54:45 GMT

So, will she really do everything I tell her, or do I need to spend a good amount of time talking with her about the fact that her dog's well being: his freedom and happiness could depend on his friendly and reliable interaction with her neighbors, particularly the children?

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feeds@yuku.com (Squirtsmom2) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:35:01 GMT

NILIF. Big time.

Prong for pulling.

Encourage her to neuter him!

Focus on sharpening up that sit so she can use it to curb jumping.

Encourage exercise and lots of it.

Proposal for pros

feeds@yuku.com (PoochProfessor) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:54:53 GMT

OK. You have an appointment with a brand-new client. She has owned dogs before, but is not in any way an expert (in her words, "they were all easy"), and has never done any "formal" training. You will have her for 1 hour only, and then you will never see her again. She is not going to do any more formal training after you are done, but promises she will work with the dog and will do whatever you tell her to do. She has use of all...